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13 years 2 weeks ago #6397 by sl1200mk2
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Now tested the BCF2000 as well, and -as expected- it behaves the same. No big deal, it just means that, when using the BCF/BCR, I should not change the levels in DL directly.

how do you change the levels in DL? with the mouse? with the wheel of the mouse? with the At_Level shortcut?
does it behave the same with all of this options?

However, while playing around, I noticed that the GO, PAUSE and GOBACK , when send from midi, do not behave as expected :
- when I pause a transition, and then press GO again, the transfer starts again from the beginning.
- Mlink and TGroup don't work, when using the midi GO

waouuuu, this is big isuues.... :huh:
is it on the mac Mini or with your other computer with 10.8?
does it behave the same on both computer/OS?

- GoBack seems to have issues as well. Need to test more.

what is the issue with GoBack?

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6398 by noelvd
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sl1200mk2 wrote:

Now tested the BCF2000 as well, and -as expected- it behaves the same. No big deal, it just means that, when using the BCF/BCR, I should not change the levels in DL directly.

how do you change the levels in DL? with the mouse? with the wheel of the mouse? with the At_Level shortcut?
does it behave the same with all of this options?

I use a mouse, but I don't think it matters.
DL does send out the levels via midi, but if they are not in the active preset of the BCR/BCF, the BCR/BCF ignores them.

However, while playing around, I noticed that the GO, PAUSE and GOBACK , when send from midi, do not behave as expected :
- when I pause a transition, and then press GO again, the transfer starts again from the beginning.
- Mlink and TGroup don't work, when using the midi GO

waouuuu, this is big isuues.... :huh:
is it on the mac Mini or with your other computer with 10.8?
does it behave the same on both computer/OS?
I don't have access to a Mac with 10.8, for the moment.

- GoBack seems to have issues as well. Need to test more.

what is the issue with GoBack?[/quote]
Will do more testing ASAP.
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13 years 2 weeks ago #6399 by noelvd
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Good news :laugh:

I managed to get -in midi- Go/Pause/GoBack working as expected.

In my original setup, GO was 'connected' to Sysex 'Play'.
Sometimes, GO would trigger twice, and skip a sequence.
After changing GO to "PC 0", it works fine.

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6400 by sl1200mk2
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@Noel,
here with 10.8 SysEx Go, Pause, GoBack are working as expected.
I'll be able to test on a 10.7.

we need to know if this error only rise with 10.6
(fucking backward compatibility....)

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6401 by noelvd
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I will test Sysex Go, Pause and GoBack again.
Maybe I made a mistake in the BCR2000 settings? :unsure:

Also noticed that, when pausing a transition (even with a mouse click), the Mlink keeps going. TGroup pauses.

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6403 by pancho
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Salut,
pour les sysex, chez moi, avec un korgnano1 :
sur mac 10.6 et comportement identique sur linux64 :
dans un nouveau show, impossible d'assigner les sysex, le connect ne remplis pas le tableau
dans un show préexistant, avec les go, gob et pause en sysex assignés avec une version antérieure (j'ai un vieux fichier xml que je réutilise à chaque nouveau spectacle) , tout fonctionne bien, mais pas de réassignation possible des sysex.

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6404 by noelvd
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My testing was/is done on a Mac Mini with 10.6 and an existing .sho which I have been using for weeks.
Had no problem to connect Go/Pause/GoBack to PC (Program Change) and (later) back to Sysex.

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6405 by sl1200mk2
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@All,
I've also noticed a mistake with new SysEx connection, it's fixed for the next beta.

@Noel,

Also noticed that, when pausing a transition (even with a mouse click), the Mlink keeps going. TGroup pauses.

This is the expected behavior.
Mlinks are independent form the sequence.

@pancho,
pourras-tu essayer les modifs du serveur OLA de la prochaine beta sur ta linux64?

Ce qui reste à déterminer c'est pourquoi un Go en SysEx fonctionne ici sur un 10.8, chez françois sur un 10.6 mais pas chez Noel sur un 10.6.
du coup peut-être est-ce en raison du matériel utilisé (bien que Noel valide que les messages sont bien reçus...)

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6406 by noelvd
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@Noel,

Also noticed that, when pausing a transition (even with a mouse click), the Mlink keeps going. TGroup pauses.

This is the expected behavior. Mlinks are independent form the sequence.
Please excuse my ignorance, but why are they independent ? :unsure:

Ce qui reste à déterminer c'est pourquoi un Go en SysEx fonctionne ici sur un 10.8, chez françois sur un 10.6 mais pas chez Noel sur un 10.6.
du coup peut-être est-ce en raison du matériel utilisé (bien que Noel valide que les messages sont bien reçus...)

Yes, the messages received (in the midi-window of DL) are correct.
I am now thinking that the problem could be with the (secondhand) BCR2000. It has done strange things before. :(
I will test again, with the other BCR2000 and/or the BCF2000
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13 years 2 weeks ago #6407 by noelvd
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Well, it's not the BCR2000, as the BCF2000 has the same issue.

It looks like 'somewhere', a false 'Go' is picked up...
But when I set GO as PC 0, it all works fine. Tried all kind of combinations of Go/Pause/GoBack, and it worked flawless.

Meanwhile, I'm making progress in setting up the BCR/BCF combination (BigDesk ;) )
Will post a movie clip, one of these days)

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Noël
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13 years 2 weeks ago #6408 by sl1200mk2
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This is the expected behavior. Mlinks are independent form the sequence.

Please excuse my ignorance, but why are they independent ?

like that you can start something that is in a sub indepentelly of the sequence.
let's say for example that you can have light for cyclorama rising in 20 minutes while you continue the Go in the sequence.

It looks like 'somewhere', a false 'Go' is picked up...
But when I set GO as PC 0, it all works fine. Tried all kind of combinations of Go/Pause/GoBack, and it worked flawless.

that's strange because internally at some point (after switching between Midi command type) code is the same for both type (eg SysEx or Program change).
I've made a little change for the b10, maybe it'll fit better...

Meanwhile, I'm making progress in setting up the BCR/BCF combination (BigDesk )
Will post a movie clip, one of these days)

please do so... ;)

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13 years 2 weeks ago #6409 by sl1200mk2
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another difference between SysEx and PC is that SysEx is expecting an EOX message (0xf7 bit) to internally send command and reset structure.
I've made change (for the b10) for resetting this expectation even if 0xf7 is not sent.
maybe that's the cause of the problem.

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13 years 1 week ago #6413 by sl1200mk2
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b10 is online.
please test and report B)

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13 years 1 week ago #6419 by Jefff
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Pour les commandes sysex avec une nano : effectivement dlight ne voulait pas linker, il affiche "SysEx Play", en le remplaçant par "Play" dans DL ça fonctionne. Pareil pour rewind, pause...

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